Friday 12 November 2010

Vote For Your Favorite Federer Doping Issue

One of our best posters, Andy, presented a very detailed list of Roger Federer Doping issues that should be covered by this blog within the next few months. I thought it would be a good idea at this initial embarkment of the blog to present his fantastic list as part of a main post, and allow fans to vote on their favoite Federer doping issue. Choose the issue that you feel either provides the best evidence, is the most interesting or is the most incriminating.

Also, I would appreciate any feedback on any other Fed doping issues that fans would like to discuss.

What Fed Doping Issue Would You Like to Discuss?

Please note that the issues do not go into detail, but just nod to the deeper implications, such as the fact EPO may have been responsible for Roger's monoclueosis in 2008. But these details would be explored in further detail in the actual Issue discussion.



45 comments:

  1. Let me start off the comments to give you an idea of what I'm looking for. I personally voted for exploring the Mono 2008 issue because I believe that Roger's high altitude training
    (http://www.tenniscruz.com/content/view/390/27/) and EPO usage to increase his stamina and endurance led to his getting mono (http://www.tenniscruz.com/content/view/527/27/ )
    These two articles are good reference points to open up the discussion.

    If you have any great links or sources, even ones that may be in French, German, Spanish, etc., please provide and mention why the particular topic (either listed or not listed) would be interesting.

    Thanks!

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  2. Federer's movement has been a lot better since Wimbledon. It is abundantly obvious that he is reaching balls he wasn't getting to earlier this year. His groundstrokes are also a lot faster than they were at the start of the year.

    So at this late stage in his career he has somehow managed to increase both his strength and speed. His stamina and lack of exhaustion after long matches is also suspect.

    Clear evidence of doping. I'm voting for the last option.

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  3. NADULL'S A DOPER! (clap clap clapclapclap)!!! NADULL'S A DOPER! (clap clap clapclapclap)!!! NADULL'S A DOPER! (clap clap clapclapclap)!!! NADULL'S A DOPER! (clap clap clapclapclap)!!! NADULL'S A DOPER! (clap clap clapclapclap)!!! NADULL'S A DOPER! (clap clap clapclapclap)!!! NADULL'S A DOPER! (clap clap clapclapclap)!!! NADULL'S A DOPER! (clap clap clapclapclap)!!! NADULL'S A DOPER! (clap clap clapclapclap)!!! NADULL'S A DOPER! (clap clap clapclapclap)!!! NADULL'S A DOPER! (clap clap clapclapclap)!!! NADULL'S A DOPER! (clap clap clapclapclap)!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!

    POOOOR QUEEEEEEN NADULL!!!!! THIS GENERATIONS IVAN LENDL AT BEST!!!!!

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  4. Who is Nadull? Is he a good player? Never heard of him.

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  5. Anon @10:43 wrote:

    "(clap clap clapclapclap)!!!"

    What the hell are you doping with right now?

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  6. FEDtards are biter loosers and HIPPOCRATIC DIFFIMATTORS!

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  7. Federer's ability to suddenly turn up for the slams is really suspicious. We need to make sure more people notice it.

    @Kent
    I agree that his post-Wimbledon resurgence is also very odd. I hope you post more here.

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  8. How about his work (or lack thereof) on the Players Council on doping? Roger says all the right things to the Press, but never gets anything done. Has he accomplished anything from the stand point of establishing an independent body for monitoring and enforcement of drug testing? The sport has just gotten more and more suspect, and guess who has been the President of the Players Council for years now? He has no interest in tough drug testing...just his image for the Press.

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  9. We've got some Federer trolls here (see previous topics).
    Guys, just relax and have fun:
    Federer's muscles:
    http://www.daylife.com/photo/0eTU2Js7RlddU
    http://www.daylife.com/photo/0aSMeNzedHgOH
    http://www.daylife.com/photo/07Tw4KX5pO8MA
    http://www.daylife.com/photo/05L279Oa8p66l

    Double of Gerard Depardieu?
    http://www.daylife.com/photo/01In7ac4vA3W4

    Imbalanced biceps?
    http://www.daylife.com/photo/09vU926gmjg2o
    http://www.daylife.com/photo/06qX5Is8NScD1

    Old man?
    http://www.daylife.com/photo/0gIU7iJb4XaCZ

    Evil
    http://www.daylife.com/photo/06o57wH0ltcEd

    Not a big difference in overall appearance, even similar smile ;)
    http://www.daylife.com/photo/08IZgHuankex6

    Hope you enjoyed.

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  10. I voted for the last option too. Fed has said that he doesn't spend hours and hours off court doing any physical training, running or doing anything particularly elaborate. He's said that he's in "tennis shape" and will often spend 3 to 4 hours on court practicing.

    Although, he's kept a renowned physio on retainer as evidenced in that article on his calves and leg muscles. He must be doing something else though because his response to battling in hot conditions is completely unnatural.

    If Fed is using anything, it's EPO for stamina and resilience. That is why the option on "The incredible dominance and stamina" seems like the best discussion material. Federer has a puzzling ability to breeze through 5-setters without showing exhaustion and as someone pointed out, rarely even sweating when his opponent is going to the towel on every point.

    What would the lack of sweating imply? He must be taking something that has this is a side-effect: the two PEDs that list this as a common symptom are EPO and especially the new EPO: CERA. HGH is supposed to have a side-effect of excessive sweating.

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  11. @funny pics

    Great collection of pictures! The "muscle" photos even show better proof of those "infamous" calves. lol

    At the "Imbalanced biceps?" photos. Anyone else a little disturbed by how atrophied his left arm is compared to his right one. Isn't this supposed to be a sign of Steroid use (limb not being works actually atrophies)? Great finds!

    LMAO at "Evil Fed".
    http://www.daylife.com/photo/06o57wH0ltcEd

    The Fed Trolls are pretty funny...obsessively driven to attack Rafa as proof Fed isn't taking PEDs. :) They'll enjoy that last photo of Roger and Rafa together. Rafa actually looks much smaller in muscle size, especially his calves. lol
    http://www.daylife.com/photo/08IZgHuankex6

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  12. RAFAEL NADAL'S DOPE NAMES

    1. Rafeal DOPAMINE Nadal

    2. Rafael DOPEMASTER Nadal

    3. Rafael Nadal, The Dopemaster-General of the ATP Tour

    4. Rafael Nadal, Chief Hater of Tennis Anti-Doping Agency

    5. many many more...

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  13. TruthTellerReturns13 November 2010 at 02:46

    ROGER FEDERER vs RAFAEL NADAL - Who is DOPING?
    (The evidence is clear. Decide for yourself below)

    Article #1

    CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT Rafael Nadal IS THE ONE DOPING, not Roger Federer. From BBC SPORTS, read on...

    DOPING RULES TOO STRICT - NADAL

    17:17 GMT, Tuesday, 10 November 2009

    Nadal believes anti-doping regulations are too strict

    World number two Rafael Nadal has reiterated his criticism of anti-doping regulations in the wake of bans handed to Xavier Malisse and Yanina Wickmayer.

    The Belgian pair fell foul of the rule requiring players to tell anti-doping authorities where they will be for one hour of every day over three months.

    "I am the first who wants a clean sport but the way [controls] are being done is, in my opinion, not right," he said.

    "It's too much to have to say where you are every day of your life."

    Nadal, like Britain's Andy Murray, has been a vocal critic of the World Anti-Doping Agency's "whereabouts" rule, which was introduced on 1 January 2009.

    Under the new rules, athletes must make themselves available to testers for one hour a day, between 0600 and 2300, three months in advance.

    I have confidence in my colleagues and in other players. I always believe they're clean

    Rafael Nadal
    If an athlete fails to be in the specified location on three occasions in an 18-month period, they incur an automatic ban.

    Malisse and Wickmayer were both given one-year bans by the Flemish Doping Tribunal in Belgium for falling foul of the rule.

    They have both announced their intention to appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, although Malisse said he may struggle to afford the costs involved.

    Fellow Belgian Kim Clijsters described the punishments as "extremely harsh".

    Nadal added: "I'm always going to side with the players and defend the players.

    "I have confidence in my colleagues and in other players. I always believe they're clean. Until the results tell me otherwise, I'm going to defend my friends."

    The bans for the Belgian pair were announced shortly after Andre Agassi revealed in his autobiography that he tested positive for crystal meth in 1997 and lied to the ATP in order to escape a ban.

    Nadal and world number one Roger Federer have both expressed their shock that Agassi was able to avoid punishment by claiming his drug use was accidental.

    But two-times Grand Slam champion Marat Safin believes Agassi has betrayed their governing body and should even consider giving his titles and prize money back.

    "I'm not defending the ATP, but what he said put it in a delicate position," the Russian, who will retire at the end of the season, told French sports paper L'Equipe.

    "The ATP allowed him to win a lot of tournaments, a lot of money. It kept his secret. Why does he need to be so cruel with it?

    "If he is as fair play as he says he is, he has to go to the end. You know, the ATP has a bank account and he can give the money back if he wants."

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  14. TruthTellerIsBack13 November 2010 at 02:49

    ROGER FEDERER vs RAFAEL NADAL - Who is DOPING?
    (The evidence is clear. Decide for yourself below)

    Article #2

    If RAFA is so clean, WHY is he against stringent testing? Read on below for yourselves...

    RAFAEL NADAL ATTACKS ANTI-DOPING LAWS

    Staff - 30 May 2009

    Four time reigning French Open champion Rafael Nadal launched a scathing attack on world sport's controversial new doping rules claiming top tennis players were being "harassed" by testers.

    Nadal said he was paid his latest visit by testers when he was at home in Madrid last week.

    "I was with my friends. Then I had a bath and my mother called me. She told me the guys were in my house in Madrid. It was my only free evening. I have to take this anti-doping control," said Nadal.

    "It was the same several days ago. David Ferrer and Fernando Verdasco were also tested as well, at 6:00 a.m. It's absolutely crazy. I don't know if, from a legal point of view, this is correct. That is, to know where you are every single moment of your life, and to account for this. This is what I think." Nadal added.

    "I don't think this is a right thing to do. It's wrong. It's a high price to pay to practice your sport, to play tennis. I want tennis to be as clean as possible, of course. This is crystal clear. But there's room for maneuvering. You see, there's a certain type of leeway." Nadal continued.

    Nadal also added that he was convinced that his friend, French player Richard Gasquet was innocent of doping despite the Frenchman testing positive for cocaine in Miami earlier this year. Gasquet has since been suspended and now faces a career threatening two-year ban from the sport.

    "I have spoken to Richard last week on the phone. I am convinced that he did not take anything, that he did not take cocaine," said the Spaniard.

    http://www.live-tennis.com/category/Tennis-News/Rafael-Nadal-attacks-anti-doping-laws-200905300007/

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  15. TruthTellerAintGoingNowhere!13 November 2010 at 02:52

    ROGER FEDERER vs RAFAEL NADAL - Who is DOPING?
    (The evidence is clear. Decide for yourself below)

    Article #3

    NOW THE TRUTH COMES OUT (see below) - RAFA IS THE ONE THAT IS DOPING!!!

    FEDERER DIFFERS FROM NADAL IN DOPING STANCE

    2/7/09 4:37 AM | Ricky Dimon

    Roger Federer approves of the new doping rules in tennis. His opinion on the issue, however, differs from those of both Rafael Nadal and Andy Murray.

    Roger Federer gave his approval to the International Tennis Federation's new and more stringent doping rules this week.

    The new policy states that all players must provide an hour of the day, for all 365 days of the year, in which they reveal their whereabouts and agree to be prepared for a random test. For Federer, it's OK by him if that's what has to be done.

    "You're not going to catch them," Federer said of the potential dopers, "by ringing up and saying, 'Look, I'd like to test you maybe in two days. The guy is cheating and they are smart, right?"

    At the same time, however, Federer admitted that the system is much different now. "It's a tough system and a significant change to what we were used to before, so I think it takes some getting used to it," he explained. "But this is how you're going to catch them. It is an hour a day. I know it's a pain, but I would like it to be a clean sport, so I'm OK with it."

    Among those against the new rules are Rafael Nadal and Andy Murray. Nadal voiced his displeasure during the Australian Open, and Murray chimed in on the matter earlier this week.

    The fourth-ranked Scot was apparently tested at 7 AM last week. "The official insisted on watching me provide the sample--literally with my trousers around my ankles--then insisted I wrote down my home address, even though he was at my private home at 7 AM," he said. "The new rules are draconian."

    http://www.tennistalk.com/en/news/20090207/Federer_differs_from_Nadal_in_doping_stance

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  16. RAFAEL NADAL is the DopeMaster-General of the ATP.

    PERIOD. End of Story. Case Closed.

    I am scouring the Internet for more and more evidence. Hang on....

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  17. Federer has now won 18 of his 19 matches since the U.S. Open. Starting at Shanghai, he has played 4 consecuitve tournaments without rest, but does not appear to be tired. He has won 14 straight matches, and will make his 8th straight "non-Slam" Final if he beats Monfils today in Paris. All of this has occurred since people began noticing the suspicious pictures, and it brings up a number of anomalies.

    1. Since 2007 until 2009, Fed was considered a "Slam Only" player making only a handful of "Non-Slam" finals. Now he is about to make his 8th straight at age 29?

    2. He has played 4 consecutive tournaments (Shanghai, Stockholm, Basel, Paris) without rest, making the Finals of each one, yet he looks completely fresh at the end of his matches this week.

    3. Is it possible he is targeting the WTFs because defending the AO in 2011 seems unlikely, and he would like to cycle back up for Wimby in 2011 as his next slam target with the Olympics being held at SW19 in London in 2012? It just seems odd, since Roger hasn't played remarkably in the Fall season for many years, and then all of sudden he seems unbeatable again like in his prime. Is losing the #1 ranking and falling to #3 (now #2 again) a blow that made him accelerate his doping program to get back to the top again? Again, his results, outside the slams, have been better than any year since 2006. Sampras went after slams only at this age, so the last thing I expected was for Roger to start dominating non-Slam events week after week and yet fade in the slams. Very odd!

    4. Steroids have helped aging athletes produce the greatest performances of their career and hardcore choices of usage were decided after ther careers started fading. See Bonds, Clemens, McGwire and Sosa in Baseball; Armstrong, Kloden, Ulrich, Leipheimer in Cycling. Faced with fading careers, these athletes desperately went on ful-fledged doping programs to reclaim their personal glory.

    Is it possible, especially with the ITF in charge of drug testing, that we may see a resurgence in Roger's career up through age 35 or older that mirrors the resurgence of these other athlete's careers? The average age of a Top Twenty Player in Tennis is now 25-26; back in the 80's, most players retired around age 26-27. There are no players in the Top 100 under the age of 22 right now. Roger is suddenly having a fantastic run of victories at the age of 29. And he has done it without taking breaks to get any rest. This is all incredibly suspicious.

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  18. Truth Teller,

    Fed hasn't done squat to improve testing, and he has been the President of the ATP Player's Council for years. If he says "pretty words" to the Press, but doesn't do anything, he is just a lying politician. If Rafa and Murray say it is a pain in the butt, but comply with it anyway, they can only be accused of being honest.

    Fed has proven to be a manipulative lying polical type figure on the ATP. He tells the press what they want to hear. Re-printing an article of Roger offering what the Press want to hear when he backs it up with no action is to the "Truth Searchers" an indication that he is a manipulative, lying Machievellian elitist who is all talk.

    An independent body that ENFORCES drug testing and doesn't allow players like Fed to miss OOC tests needs to be in charge instead of the ITF. IF Fed made a move towards an effective drug testing policy instead of an annoying and ineffective one, his words might mean something.

    Lance Armstrong made many strong statements to the press about doing things to prove he didn't dope and was in favor of strong dope testing. His methodology was to tell the Press what they wanted to hear, promise to do things like having his hair samples collected, and then months later after the good press was out there, he would discreetly do nothing. This is how a doper works. They don't complain about the testing being burdensome and do it anyway. They act like they are in favor of it for political deception, and then act behind the scenes in a completely different manner discreetly to allow themselves to continue and be given unwarrented praise by blind fans like yourself.

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  19. TruthTellerReturns13 November 2010 at 03:34

    WADA factors Increasing Suspicion

    Found this on the WADA drug testing website and thought it was relevant. It describes situations in which an athlete might bring more suspicion onto themselves (I've highlighted the ones I think are pertinent to what I see in tennis):

    The factors that will be relevant to determining who should be made the subject of Target Testing will vary as between different sports, but could include (without limitation) some or all of the following factors:

    a) Abnormal biological parameters (blood parameters, steroid profiles, etc);
    b) Injury;
    c) Withdrawal or absence from expected Competition;
    d) Going into or coming out of retirement;
    e) Behaviour indicating doping;
    f) Sudden major improvements in performance;
    g) Repeated failure to provide Whereabouts Filings;
    h) Whereabouts Filings that may indicate a potential increase in the risk of doping, including moving to a remote location;
    i) Athlete sport performance history;
    j) Athlete age, e.g. approaching retirement, move from junior to senior level;
    k) Athlete test history;
    l) Athlete reinstatement after a period of Ineligibility;
    m) Financial incentives for improved performance, such as prize money or sponsorship opportunities;
    n) Athlete association with a third party such as coach or doctor with a history of involvement in doping; and
    o) Reliable information from a third party.

    http://tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot.com/2009/03/wada-factors-increasing-suspicion.html

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  20. TruthTellerReturns13 November 2010 at 03:50

    -Dr. Fuentes
    -Alberto Contador
    -Rafael Nadal

    Connect the dots...

    RAFA's knee and shoulder "injuries" are his excuse to pump doping blood r-EPO into his system.

    Since there is hardly any serious blood testing out-of-competition, he gets away with it.

    This is sad. Very sad.

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  21. TruthTellerIsStillHere13 November 2010 at 04:05

    NOW WE KNOW WHAT THOSE RAFAEL NADAL "TENDINITIS" EXCUSES ARE FOR - JUICE-TIME!

    "A year before, just around the AusOpen where Rafael Nadal played two 5set matches against Verdasco and Federer, WADA announced the new anti-doping rules which require athletes to inform testers of their location every day. I don't remember when these rules was applied, but I remember that Nadal and Murray were against the rules and they even attack them. Soon after that in the next tournament in Rotterdam Nadal announce his knee problems, and after that till now Nadal won only 4 ATP titles (Indain wells, Monte Carlo, Barcelona, Rome.)
    I am just curios, how do you think is it possible the new WADA anti-doping rules to be connected with the Nadal bad performance ?"
    __________________
    Head Shooter

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  22. TruthTellerTellingItStraight13 November 2010 at 04:18

    Interesting Reactions to the "Whereabout" Rules by Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer, and a popular sports journalist. ROGER WINS! WHY SHOULD NADAL BE "SCARED" THAT HE WILL BE CAUGHT IF HE HAS NOTHING TO HIDE?!

    NADAL reaction:

    "I think it [whereabouts] shows a lack of respect for privacy. I think it's a disgrace, particularly knowing what our sport is like. Even my mother or my uncle do not know where I am sometimes, so having to send a message or to be scared all day in case there is a last-minute change seems to me to be a complete exaggeration...

    Those are things that completely have to change, and there is a unanimous voice on that in the locker room. It is an intolerable hunt. We have proved that we are a clean sport. You can count (doping) cases with one hand."

    Jan. 28, 2009 - Rafael Nadal


    FEDERER reaction:

    "It's a tough system, no doubt. It's a significant change to what we were used to before, so I think it takes some getting used to it.

    I feel like this is how you're going to catch them, right? You're not going to catch them ringing them up and saying, 'Look, I would like to test you maybe in two days.' The guy's cheating and they're smart, right? It's an hour a day. I know it's a pain, but I would like it to be a clean sport, and that's why I'm OK with it."

    Feb. 1, 2009 - Roger Federer


    L JON WERTHEIM reaction:

    "The civil libertarian in me (whose profile diminishes as I get older) thinks the [whereabouts] testing is unduly invasive. When players, such as Rafael Nadal and Andy Murray, complain about privacy issues, I think they have a valid point. Apart from the logistical difficulties -- what athlete in the transient sport of tennis knows where they'll be every minute of every day? -- there's something creepily Big Brotherish about this policy...

    The pragmatist in me, however, sees how other sports -- track, cycling, baseball -- have been damaged (irreparably?) by spotty testing and drug scandals. The inner pragmatist also recognizes that unannounced, out-of-competition testing is the best way to catch the cheaters. If this burdensome testing is the price for keeping tennis out of trouble and upholding the dignity of the competition, it's a small price to pay. I don't like standing in the security line or being unable to pack shampoo in my carry-on. But if that's the price to pay for not getting my plane blown up, so be it."

    Mar. 26, 2009 - L. Jon Wertheim, JD

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  23. Put this down as another avenue to explore as evidence Federer is a doper. Compare how Fed and Lance Armstrong (and all doping cheats) have handled the Press with words and then compare that with their actions.

    -They all tell the Press they are in favor of tough testing, and then when even having the power to do something, they continue to allow weak testing methodologies and do nothing. Like sneaky politicians, they use their mouths to make themselves look innocent, but their actions are impotent, or even help defeat better testing policies. Annoying testing policies and effective testing policies are not the same thing. Annoying policies may give the "appearance" (important word for Lance and Roger) of being tough, but they are impotent at the core.

    -They promise to do things to prove their innocence in a big display to the Press so that that part is remembered, and then conveniently don't do anything behind the scenes for some lame excuse. The lack of action is then not reported to the Press as part of the manipulation.

    Lance offered to give hair samples for drug testing while training for the Tour de France in 2009 and made a big media display out of it. He allowed this media noise to circulate in September, 2008. When he was supposed to start doing so in February, 2009, he told the Independent drug tester he had hired he realized he didn't have any time to keep his promise. The drug tester ended up collecting nothing! This part was not divulged to the Press....the fact that he did nothing. The whole scheme was to plant thoughts in people's minds via the compliant Press and then do nothing about it later. Only those who investigate his doping issues know that he didn't do anything.

    Sound familiar? Roger has promised to do hair samples and his doping defenders point this out over and over again. The only problem is that he hasn't provided any hair samples to an independent body. Like Lance, it was all talk to plant the idea of innocence in people's minds.

    -While being openly in favor of testing to the Press, they simultaneously have influence over the Testing enforcement and take questionable actions (and/or non-action) with that power. Lance, and his $100,000 donations to UCI/WADA. Roger, President of the ATP Players Council under the ITF for years now; the ITF being the ones who are the enforcers of the current drug testing policy.

    Fed, obviously, is not working to do anything effective for PED testing and enforcement by putting it in the hands of an independent body and focusing on effective fair testing and enforcement. And to make things almost laughably hypocritical, Fed misses OOC tests and doesn't make them up, but since it is enforced by the ITF, so what? He's the President of their Player Council. Notice the conflict in interest here? It should also go without saying that if the President is missing Out of Competition tests, and they are presumably the role model to others, what does this REALLY say about his actual commmittment to tough drug testing. He has demonstrated a complete lack of responsibility and respect to drug testing himself. Maybe he had good reasons to miss the OOCs and not make them up? You would think the ATP Player Council President should be the first one to showcase doing things the right way since that is part of their responsibility.

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  24. I got a message my post was too long above. ^^^

    Last paragraph:

    -People who use their mouths to create an image while their actions contradict their words, have been proven over and over again to be the real doping cheats. They go out of their way and say things they don't have to say to establish innocence because they are guilty and want to divert public impressions in the opposite direction. Someone who is innocent is MUCH more likely to act like Nadal or Murray: not say or promise anthing special, complain when they're irritated because this is their honest feelings and they are not afraid their griping will hurt them because of their innocence. Also, their actions don't contradict their words as has been the case with Lance and Roger.

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  25. LOL. Running away from dope-testers does not show much innocence now, does it?

    Rafael ROPE-A-DOPE Nadal should know!

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  26. "Running away from dope-testers does not show much innocence now, does it?"


    Like Federer did last Fall, no?

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  27. @Funny pics

    Fantastic picture finds! Thank you so much. I would like to use many of those in the future.

    @Kent:

    Ok, I think you've raised at least 4 more issues to discuss:

    1. Roger's current run in 2010 - Slams he is now failing; non-Slams he is has made 8 straight finals in a row (assuming he beats Monfils today). From 2007-2009 he was the exact opposite; he couldn't win outside the slams. Before 2007, he won non-slams and Slams. A coincidence or is it a new approach with his doping regime?

    2. The "Lance Armstrong" political doping methodology: Play the Press for all they are worth to appear innocent and then deceitfully take actions that contradict your words and promises.

    3. Strength, stamina and lack of sweating (I've noticed that too): Signs of CERA or EPO? Playing 4 tourney's (non-slam) consecutively and making the Finals in all of them without getting tired.

    4. The age factor and steroids. Almost every "end of their career" athlete in the Steroid era that had a late career resurgence has been linked to Designer Steroids.

    Let me know if I missed anything. Thanks!

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  28. A real tennis fan cannot like Nadal's physical approach to the game. Any player fitter than Nadal would beat Nadal. And how can anyone get fitter than Nadal? By better doping. Where is tennis in all that?

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  29. "A real tennis fan cannot like Nadal's physical approach to the game."
    Yes, we already know about the birds and the bees and the real tennis fans. You don't have to repeat.
    "Where is tennis in all that?"
    You can't distinguish between tennis and other sports but you still can distinguish between doper and non-doper?
    A bit strange, or suspicious, as you would say.

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  30. Fed trolls are strangely absent since Fed choked to Monfils today. lol

    Someone in MTF started an interesting thread on the fact Roger was unwatchable this Fall because he has been serving so well with so many aces that his service games are taking only a minute or two.

    It looks like he finally ran out of gas today, but he has been winning 90% of his points on First Serve. Of course, when he does stuff like this, noone compares his service speeds to the ones he had earlier in the year. The responses basically stated that Fed is so talented, that he just "decides what weapon of choice to use" and for now it is his serve. Oh God!!! The arrogance and lack of introspection is stifling.

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  31. 2:07 pm September 15, 2010
    anonymous wrote:
    Watching that final was a sad day for tennis, it proved that PED users such as Nadal have come to dominate the game. Rafa was serving 10 mph on average faster than he ever has and never seemed to get winded, where as Djokovic had visibly run into a wall. Rafa’s play at the end of last year was of a player who could barely win games off of Djokovic in the year end tournament in London and a player visibly suffering from tendonitis in both knees. They talk about how Nadal is the most improved player, but for a player at his caliber to have improved so much in a short period of time is nothing short of a miracle. To those that say he would of tested positive, it is a well known fact that out of competition drug testing is a joke, and players can miss up to two tests in a year, who do u think one of those players is? If there is anything that is also certain its that just because you have not tested positive does not mean your not using. Floyd landis doped his whole career and was only caught that one time. To see writers say what a privilege it is to be a fan in tennis right now hurts. I unfortunately see tennis right now following that of baseball where too little will be done too late. Its impossible to trust the ATP after Agassi had revealed they covered up his doping violation, and there are too many people getting rich for anyone to do anything.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/dailyfix/2010/09/14/the-all-weather-all-surface-champion/

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  32. @2:07
    Wrong blog. There's another one that mainly focuses on Nadal:
    tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot.com

    "Fed trolls are strangely absent since Fed choked to Monfils today. lol "
    They are busy crying, Roger's website usually crashes when their flood of tears arrive.

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  33. RafaelNadalIsDoping13 November 2010 at 23:36

    THE TRUTH IS OUT!!!

    NOW WE KNOW WHY Rafael Nadal TAKES THESE SO-CALLED "INJURY" TIME-OUTS - TO JUICE UP!!!

    passingshot permalink
    September 16, 2010 2:07 am
    Nadal has claimed knee injuries since 2005, when he first started wearing bandages when he played. As you correctly observe, his injuries have rarely if ever impeded his performance as a multiple grand slam winner and his twice having reached No.1 in the world. Has ever a chronically injured player had such a distinguished career?

    His latest knee injuries, which he says occurred in the clay-court season and troubled him at Wimbledon, were apparently “cured” after a few blood platelet plasma (BPP) treatments by a Dr Mikel Sanchez, a Spanish doctor. The treatments are apparently a means of trying to restimulate tendon growth, and remain somewhat controversial. The available medical literature says there is little evidence so far to support that BPP is any more effective than conventional treatments. James Blake has had similar treatment but without the same results as Nadal.

    It is now widely speculated that taking breaks for “injuries” is a way of undergoing cycling of performance enhancing drugs at the same time. That may explain the frequency of injuries, the almost miraculous recoveries, and greatly improved performance coming off injury. Contrast the experiences of Del Potro, Davydenko and Simon, who have all had sustained periods off the tour recently with injury and are struggling to regain any kind of form (even to play again in Del Potro’s case). This is much what you would expect in the case of genuine injury. But not so Nadal. He has played continuously through his injuries (Wimbledon last year the significant exception), his movement unabated, with only the shortest break off court, and after 5 years, when his tendons should be like shredded rubber, he is miraculously cured by a Spanish doctor’s intervention, just in time to claim a his career slam. Wonders we will never cease to behold.

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  34. Rafael Nadal Is Doping13 November 2010 at 23:58

    Q. Why does Rafael Nadal always seem to get "injured"?

    A. To win the "sympathy" of the general public and tennis fans while DOPING UP, shooting enriched r-EPO blood into his system, and WADA Anti-Doping agents stay away out of courtesy.

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  35. Rafael Nadal Is Doping14 November 2010 at 00:07

    Q. Why did Rafael Nadal switch from sleeveless tennis shirts to short-sleeved ones?

    A. To hide the suspicious-looking juiced-up muscles built from HGH and PEDs, especially since Rafael Nadal himself says that his training regime does not involve too much weight lifting.

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  36. @Anon 23:27

    Yes, I guess the point that I keep pointing out that this blog is to cover Federer and PEDs is lost on a large majority of his fans and is offensive to them. I'm not surprised by that.

    But I expected Fed fans to argue why Roger ISN'T on PEDs as the main course of discussion, but instead all I get are comments trying to prove Nadal is on PEDs, which is meaningless to proving Federer is or isn't.

    Anyway, I'm going to try and have some fun and do a lighter side of Roger doping in light of collapse to Monfils for my next post. It does need to be noted that Roger's serve is saving his butt right now, and his ground strokes are just terrible. Funny how noone brings this up about him when he resorts to a sudden power serve game but Nadal is chased after by lynch mob after improving his serve (and ground strokes too in this case) at the USO.

    @Rafael Nadal Is Doping

    http://www.daylife.com/photo/08IZgHuankex6

    Someone looks doped here, and it ain't Nadal. It's time to get past "Denial" and reach "Acceptance" that Roger is a doping cheat.

    As in discussed in the past posts, Tennis is a sport driven by power in the legs at the point of ball contact, primarily the calves, not by large biceps. And Nadal hasn't worked on his biceps for years. I think it is pretty clear from seeing any photos where his biceps are exposed in recent years, including the 2010 USO, that he no longer has the muscle in his biceps that he had back in 2006-2007.

    Spend one day thinking outside the box, and looking at the issue from Roger being doped and Nadal being fairly normal for a 24 year old tennis player, and I think you will see the light.

    Thanks!

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  37. "Rafael Nadal, The JuiceMaster-General of the ATP"14 November 2010 at 20:35

    Operacion Puerto
    ..
    Dr. Fuentes
    ...
    Alberto Contador
    ..
    ..
    ..
    Rafael Nadal.

    You connect the dots ... and, uh-oh, it's suddenly clear what RAFAEL Juicemaster NADAL has been doing during his so-called "injury time-outs."

    He is PUMPING IT UP, then come and run the men's field rugged, get "injured" again, and go for another round of "treatments."

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  38. "Rafael ROLL-A-DOPE Nadal"14 November 2010 at 20:49

    Is Nadal Juicing?
    Posted by problemsolvergene on September 8, 2010

    I can’t help but ask the question. I like the guy and his desire is unquestionable. His will to win is almost paralleled in his sport (perhaps Federer in a more quiet way matches him) or any other. But, isn’t that what everyone always said about Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens? I don’t know the answer and I’m not here to disparage the man’s name. He makes tennis exciting and we all know that tennis needs all the excitement possible to maintain interest in the sport. Without Nadal and Federer, the sport would be in trouble. That being said, I honestly can’t explain how a man can increase his serve speed 20% in a matter of months. How a man can run in a defensive manner for hours on end and still look ready for hours more. How a man can muscle balls into winners from awkward and bio-mechanically unsound positions. You tell me.

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    TennisFan said
    September 10, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Nadal has more red flags surrounding him than any other player

    1. He was rumored to be part of the Operation Puerto doping scandal a few years ago.

    2. Spain is notorious for doping in sport.

    3. He played the most violently athletic semifinal in the 2009 Australian Open and two days later was fresher than a well rested Federer.

    4. Federer plays a less demanding style than Nadal, yet his prime is winding up to be shorter than Nadal’s. Federer’s prime was November 2003 to November 2007. Nadal’s started in April 2005 and is still going strong.

    5. He played 7 days in a row at Wimbledon in 2007 and still nearly won the final against a well rested Federer.

    6. He claims to have had severe knee tendonitis, yet his movement on court has never been impaired.

    7. He bulked up from skinny 18 year old to bulky 19 year old and his results improved overnight (compare 2004 to 2005, the difference is scary)

    8. His shots LOST POWER last fall when he got thinner. Once he bulked back up the results improved.

    9. He is winning a higher percentage of service points at this US Open than Pete Sampras did at any US Open.

    10. This is Nadal’s worst surface and he may win the US Open without dropping a set. Something even Federer and Sampras never did.

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  39. "Rafael Nadal, Doper Extraordinaire"14 November 2010 at 21:14

    MORE & MORE CRITICALLY-THINKING TENNIS AFFICIANADOS weigh in on why Rafael Nadal is truly doping.

    Read on... ALL THE WAY TO THE END, and follow the links too.

    Gene said
    September 11, 2010 at 6:15 pm

    I love the way you’ve laid out the flags on Nadal (stuff we’ve all been talking about for years) in a clear timeline. I would add to that the ridiculous shots he makes from out of position with no leverage (like Bonds hitting ball late and still sending it out of the park). When the biomechanics don’t jive, something’s wrong.

    skeptic_al said
    September 10, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    Any logical person will question these qualities about Nadal. He’s not a superman, we know this. The conclusion then is he’s on some supplements. Quite simple, I just don’t understand why a tennis fan or journalist cannot see this simple cause/effect case.

    He simply cannot have this type of game and perform at the level he does so consistently.
    And…how come the knees are no longer a factor?

    CJ1 said
    September 11, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    Steroids can accelerate male-pattern baldness. They keep closing in on Mecha Nadal’s head. He’s 24 and it’s looking very thin on top.


    Gene said
    September 11, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    Yup, was noticing the thinning on top today as well. Did you see the ridiculous shot on the 2nd set point in the 1st set? I’m a tennis pro and no one on earth can get that much power and speed naturally from such out-of-position positions.

    Rikyu said
    September 11, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    Hey Gene,

    I think there’s a lot of red flags over Nadal. What do you make of the following article about Nadal’s training?

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703571704575340960041837420.html

    Here’s, but one strange excerpt:

    “Dr. Cotorro is the Barcelona-based doctor who treats several tennis players and has long enjoyed the confidence of the Nadal family. He describes Mr. Nadal as a “very special athlete,” with abnormal amounts of energy and explosiveness. “He mixes the explosive pace of a 200-meter runner with the resistance of a marathon runner,” says Dr. Cotorro.”

    problemsolvergene said
    September 11, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Very interesting article. His knees look fine to me, just think it’s a tactic to explain why he loses power and movement when cycling off the performance enhancing substances…

    Kelly said
    September 11, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    Found your site via the ‘Tennis Has a Steroid Problem’ site. Thanks for bringing up Nadal’s noticeable yet mysterious serve improvement and for raising the possibility that he’s juiced.

    The whole ‘grip’ business is an affront to anyone who has ever played tennis. And, you bring up another very valid point about the bio-mechanics of Nadal’s shots.

    If you haven’t seen it, I recommend this article: http://www.insidetennis.com/2009/10/short-history-drugs-tennis/

    I’m a long-time tennis fan; I saw Martina beat Chrissie at Wimbledon in 1978. I live in So Cal and go out to Indian Wells every spring. But after all I’ve read in the last several days, I’m losing confidence in professional tennis very quickly.


    Gene said
    September 11, 2010 at 6:15 pm
    I love the way you’ve laid out the flags on Nadal (stuff we’ve all been talking about for years) in a clear timeline. I would add to that the ridiculous shots he makes from out of position with no leverage (like Bonds hitting ball late and still sending it out of the park). When the biomechanics don’t jive, something’s wrong.


    skeptic_al said
    September 10, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    Any logical person will question these qualities about Nadal. He’s not a superman, we know this. The conclusion then is he’s on some supplements. Quite simple, I just don’t understand why a tennis fan or journalist cannot see this simple case/effect case.

    He simply cannot have this type of game and perform at the level he does so consistently.
    And…how come the knees are no longer a factor?

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  40. "Juicing is my middle name" by Rafael Nadal14 November 2010 at 21:35

    MORE EVIDENCE OF Rafael Nadal Juicing...

    CJ1 said
    September 11, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    Steroids can accelerate male-pattern baldness. They keep closing in on Mecha Nadal’s head. He’s 24 and it’s looking very thin on top.

    Gene said
    September 11, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    Yup, was noticing the thinning on top today as well. Did you see the ridiculous shot on the 2nd set point in the 1st set? I’m a tennis pro and no one on earth can get that much power and speed naturally from such out-of-position positions.


    Rikyu said
    September 11, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    Hey Gene,

    I think there’s a lot of red flags over Nadal. What do you make of the following article about Nadal’s training?

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703571704575340960041837420.html

    Here’s, but one strange excerpt:

    “Dr. Cotorro is the Barcelona-based doctor who treats several tennis players and has long enjoyed the confidence of the Nadal family. He describes Mr. Nadal as a “very special athlete,” with abnormal amounts of energy and explosiveness. “He mixes the explosive pace of a 200-meter runner with the resistance of a marathon runner,” says Dr. Cotorro.”


    problemsolvergene said
    September 11, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Very interesting article. His knees look fine to me, just think it’s a tactic to explain why he loses power and movement when cycling off the performance enhancing substances…


    Kelly said
    September 11, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    Found your site via the ‘Tennis Has a Steroid Problem’ site. Thanks for bringing up Nadal’s noticeable yet mysterious serve improvement and for raising the possibility that he’s juiced. The whole ‘grip’ business is an affront to anyone who has ever played tennis. And, you bring up another very valid point about the bio-mechanics of Nadal’s shots.

    If you haven’t seen it, I recommend this article: http://www.insidetennis.com/2009/10/short-history-drugs-tennis/

    I’m a long-time tennis fan; I saw Martina beat Chrissie at Wimbledon in 1978. I live in So Cal and go out to Indian Wells every spring. But after all I’ve read in the last several days, I’m losing confidence in professional tennis very quickly.


    problemsolvergene said
    September 12, 2010 at 12:28 am

    Grip change rarely does that much to change speed. Poor Djokovic, he’s in for a beating tomorrow.


    Nadal’s Juicy Serve « West Coast Grrlie Blather said
    September 12, 2010 at 12:34 am
    [...] Here’s a tennis professional wondering if Nadal is on the juice: I can’t help but ask the question. I like the guy and his desire is unquestionable. His will to win is almost paralleled in his sport (perhaps Federer in a more quiet way matches him) or any other. But, isn’t that what everyone always said about Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens? I don’t know the answer and I’m not here to disparage the man’s name. He makes tennis exciting and we all know that tennis needs all the excitement possible to maintain interest in the sport. Without Nadal and Federer, the sport would be in trouble. That being said, I honestly can’t explain how a man can increase his serve speed 20% in a matter of months. How a man can run in a defensive manner for hours on end and still look ready for hours more. How a man can muscle balls into winners from awkward and bio-mechanically unsound positions. You tell me. –Gene Desrochers [...]

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  41. "Rafael ROLL-A-DOPE Nadal"14 November 2010 at 21:41

    TennisFan said
    September 12, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    The #1 thing that isn’t sitting well with me is that Nadal peaked earlier than Federer, yet he’s continuing to exceed Federer at the same age every year.

    Roger in 2000 vs Rafa in 2005: Rafa by a landslide
    Roger in 2001 vs Rafa in 2006: again Rafa by a huge margin
    Roger in 2002 vs Rafa in 2007: Rafa in mega landslide
    Roger in 2003 vs Rafa in 2008: Rafa by a lot
    Roger in 2004 vs Rafa in 2009: finally Roger finishes ahead
    Roger in 2005 vs Rafa in 2010: tied (Rafa better in Slams, Roger more dominant overall)

    That Rafa’s 2010 is matching or passing Roger’s 2005 when Roger had way more left in the tank (AND a less demanding playing style) is miraculous.


    problemsolvergene said
    September 12, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    Also great points, TennisFan.

    TennisFan said
    September 14, 2010 at 3:28 am

    thanks!

    Now I expect Rafa to win 7 Slams in a row (Rafa Slam followed by Calendar Slam). But I won’t be watching. Tonight was my last night as a tennis fan. It’s dead.


    Rikyu said
    September 13, 2010 at 10:39 pm

    Is he juicing? I don’t know, but his ability to track down every ball is amazing given the amount of foot and knee injuries he has claimed to have had over the years:

    A short history of Rafa’s injuries:

    2004
    Rising tennis star Rafael Nadal of Spain broke his left foot and will miss the French Open, Wimbledon and the Athens Olympics.
    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/tennis/2004-04-22-roundup1_x.htm

    2006
    Foot injury delays Rafael Nadal’s comeback
    http://www.rediff.com/sports/2006/jan/05nadal.htm

    2007
    Nadal plays down foot injury fear
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/7117076.stm

    2008:
    Knee injury forces Nadal to retire in Paris
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKLV49845520081031

    2009:
    “I have been playing with pain on my knees for some months now and I simply can’t go on like this.”
    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=4245078

    2010: Part 1
    Nadal retires with a right-knee injury against Murray at the Aussie Open
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/8478297.stm

    2010: Part 2
    Nadal announces knee treatments to follow Wimbledon
    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=5331883

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    TennisFan said
    September 16, 2010 at 1:04 am
    Something that really puzzles me is how Nadal has these hardcourt successes in little bunches and then wins nothing:

    Canada 05-Dubai 06, Nadal won 4 out of 7 hardcourt tournaments he played.

    Then he won 1 of 27 hardcourt tournaments played (2007 Indian Wells)

    Then he won 4 of 10 hardcourt tournaments (Canada, Olympics, Australian Open, Indian Wells)

    Then came the drought: 0 titles in 14 hardcourt tournaments played. A drought that just ended at the US Open.

    The commentators are always calling hardcourt his weakest surface. But why, then does he go on these tears of being unbeatable on this surface followed by long periods of not winning anything on it.

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    CJ1 said
    October 2, 2010 at 4:26 pm
    Cycle off?

    Losing to a semi-no-name suddenly?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/news/story?id=5639109

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    problemsolvergene said
    October 3, 2010 at 12:50 am
    Damn skippy. Looks like he’s off for now. What other explanation for such disparate results in such a short time?

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  42. "Rafael ROLL-A-DOPE Nadal"14 November 2010 at 22:23

    Q. Which ATP Player, at the tender age of 24, is beginning to show signs of balding, and why?

    A. RAFAEL NADAL! ding-ding-ding-ding, you are correct! The reason is that balding is one of the key tell-tale signs of steroid use.

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  43. I was referred to this site via a massive discussion on Yahoo on the Robin Soderling victory thread:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/news?slug=ap-parismasters

    A bunch of huge Fed fans like myself are lamenting that Roger is a doper, and are now cheering for Robin Soderling. Thank you for creating this web site so we can heal. Roger has betrayed us.

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  44. Kathy,

    Me too. I thought Roger wouldn't dope, but now I'm a believer. The best Fed fans are the ones that can look the truth right in the eye and go "I'm a huge Fed Fan, but Roger is doping". Hang in there, and maybe Justice will be served and Roger will be forced to quit doping.

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  45. If Roger were to finally quit doping, would he still play so beautifully? For tennis's sake, he should stop doping. But maybe not for art's sake. The beauty Roger gives to the game is worth the price of the drugs, so quit being so nasty to him.

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